So it never fails I get on the site to see drama about cake ads quite often. It's ridiculous. Nobody wants to keep seeing this crap. You never hear about the other cake ladies besides all the pleased customers they have. The other one just keeps escalating the current mess by publicly posting on the site in rebuttal. Which to me is a BIG NO-NO. Now can anybody tell me what person you are going to go with when looking for somebody who makes cakes, the person who you hear no drama from or the one who shows themself to be dramatic? I am just simply stating the facts. I go down the list of topics here on underground and see another thread a while back about the same crap and once again the cake lady shows her true self. She also brings her friends in to call names in that thread. Very unprofessional. I'm just going by what I can see. Same goes for the coach purse mess. If they are fake fine. Report them but do not get on the site and post ads sparking up drama! Report them as fake and be done with it! Another thing that bugs me is the pictures of cakes that are not actually made by you. I can not stand it when a person will post a cake they have not actually made. It's very unprofessional once again in my opinion. If you made it fine take pictures of ALL your creations! Especially if you are starting out. I keep seeing how the person in question has made so many cakes for others yet we never see pictures of them. Just the same ones. It helps sell your art of cake decorating if people can see the variety of work you do. I do not know any of the cake ladies I have seen on the site and have not bought from any either. So I am speaking from a neutral position. I am not trying to be mean here and am not trying to stir up a mess I just want to get it out that it is a turn off to get on the site and see this. I have noticed that as long as I have been on there(over a year) the postings and sales have totally declined. Bottom line nobody wants to see the dramatic ads. If somebody has a issue, email them privately and not in the public eye.  

Amy, The cake drama here is simply ridiculous. I NEVER start any drama, and the 'rebutals' are only in defense. I do post my own pictures, as I also have them posted on other sites. I do not have any 'friends' that I have get on here and 'gang' up for me. They are posting on their own time for their own reasons. If I post an ad in the same day, so Be it. Business is a competition, and you've simply got to 'keep up with the jones' or you will die out fast. 

It's really sad that all this goes on! Yeah there is competetion for all the buisness but is there a real need for one to sabotage the other! Me a real customer was kinda getting upset because i sent an email about a cake and then NEVER heard back. But i being an adult emailed again and come to find out she thought i wasnt realy because the other lady was sabotaging her by pretending to be someone interested and really not! COME ON its childish! Let by gones be by gones and MOVE ON! Its like high school all over again! BLAH! 

Sabotage? Obviously that's not me! I talk to Brooke and shes very nice! 

i agree with the decline in sales and posting of ads has declined, i'm sure adam and austin would say the same, i'm proof of that. i stopped along time ago, and i had just paid to renew my account, paid for it and like a wk or so later i stopped posting because all of this bs was taking up space if that is what you call it. i just know that from a sellers point of view when you post an item you look forward to it showing up and staying on that main page for a little bit of time and if it is bumped down then that is ok, but not when it is bumped down cause of all the drama on here. that is why this site (underground)was built i'm assuming; doesnt take a genius to figure that part out, but then again, there are some people that like to be "balloon" people like that family that was on for show yesterday because they "supposedly" thought their son had floated away on it and i just saw earlier on tv where the son came out and said himself that it was just for show. how sad,i'm not saying this is for show, and i am not trying to start any drama either, but just some advice if your going to get publicity, might as well be positive don't you think, you dont want to get negative views from any of this like some of these sellers are, anyways, just my two cents is all..and yes i've been on here over a yr now, and sad to say, just isn't to fun anymore the way it used to be, i actually prefer the ole boring craigslist of lawton now, dont see none of the drama on there!!!! 

I took a bunch of stuff I had listed on here forever ago and posted it all on craigslist and it all sold instantly or in the 2 days following! Nobody emailed offering low low offers. They just said hey I want it.. Its nice to get that and not deal with people on SYS who offer ridiculous amounts.. your right the site is no longer fun like it used to be.. Samantha I am just saying if somebody posts on the site like they did fine send them a reply to the ad then flag it. It is when you post in your defense that is turning people off. I wouldn't have the opinion I do if I had not seen you come back posting like you did before recently and many times before. PLEASE PLEASE know I am saying this in the nicest way possible. I do not like to see anybody lose out. this is intended as advice and not drama or anything of the sorts. 

I totally understand. I try not to respond at all and may post once in a very grown up manner, unlike the attacking poster. I refuse to let my name be stomped for no reason. The previous person who started the thread here in the underground wasn't known by anyone. He kept defending Brooke and claimed they got a cake from her, I spoke with her and she said she never made the cake he said she did and she had no clue who they were. I have also email attacking posters, but guess what? No surprise they have NEVER emailed my back, go figure. I have been told by customers that they were told by one or both of the other cake ladies that I had 'stolen' their customers, and of course that is not my intention. I can only assume friends or hardcore customers of theirs are defending them, and that's just fine, but sometimes you just have to shrug off the little stuff and keep on trucking. Please also notice I NEVER start any of the 'cake fights' or threads here about them, I'm not out to start fights, only defend my name when it's being drug through the dirt, with no reason but for needless malice from the poster. 

While my Mother has instilled many beliefs in me, the ones that continually comes to mind, when all of this drama occurs, is be courteous of others involved, try to see it from their perspective, and think before you respond. I have followed those rules; I have tried to remain neutral, I refused to sink to the standards of others, and I have not allowed myself to become angered even when I felt my creativity and verbage was being infringed on. My goal has always been to uphold a professional image- Sophisticated Sweets may be my dream, but it is also my business. I read this post last night and was immediately angered. Rather than responding immediately I took time to analyze the situation. I thought about what other people might be thinking about not only this whole situation as a whole, but how it can affect my dream. My business. The entire prospect angered me even more. In regards to your response, Samantha, I would be interested in knowing just what so called customers of yours have informed you that you have stolen them, per me. First of all, unlike some people, I know how to keep other peoples names out of my mouth. Gossip is not professional. Gossip is not becoming. It is unlady-like and it is just down right crude. I, and I am certain I can say the same of Alicia, have not mentioned your name to our clients. When we sell cakes, it is on a professional level; we want repeat business, repeat customers. Talking behind someones back lacks couth and displays utter ignorance. If I have something to say to someone, I will say it to their face- it is the polite and proper thing to do. If I do not wish to confront them, then my mouth stays shut. Secondly, none of these customers are mine to be stolen. This is a free market and these clients are people... people with minds of their own. People with opinions of their own. It is their prerogative to go to whatever business they feel is able suit their needs most adequately. I have tried to remain nice and hospitable even with the hidden innuendos. I know what certain implications mean; just because I do not respond to the underhand disses and accusations does not mean I am uneducated or born yesterday. It means that I chose to be the better person- for the sake of others, myself, and my business. While Bookoo has served me well, I just don't find advertising with the site worth it any more. Granted I get some business off the site, but a lot of my business is through personal marketing and word of mouth. My cakes speak for themselves and will continue to speak for themselves. With this, as of Monday, I will be removing all cake ads from the Sill site. I refuse to allow someone elses drama and "victimization" tarnish my business. I have a financial backer and have been searching for the perfect business location for the past six months; the last thing I need when I open my doors is for people to remember me as the dramatic cake girl on the bookoo site. It isn't my style, nor will it ever be. I am willing to place bets that the drama will cease once all competition has been erased...at least until the next cake person comes along. I mean...victimization and negative publicity are better than no publicity, right? Tried and true all over Hollywood. With the words of my heart said, good luck with your ventures, Samantha. As for my regular clients- thank you for your business; if you decide you would like my services in the future, you have my contact information. Please feel free to let me know whatever it is you may need. Brooke Secoy Owner Sophisticated Sweets 

I'm sorry to hear your leaving Brooke, and will still keep your email for referrals. As for the customers that have told me I'm 'stealing' customers, please PM me as I will not state name on here. I defend your business and do not bad mouth you, we are all here fir the same reason. 

You know what? This is disgusting. Samantha you are totally the root of all problems. I am not the only person who thinks you are a drama queen and I am not the only person who thinks you are making these drama posts yourself in attemps to make yourself look better or whatever your twisted mind is thinking. Brooke you shouldn't be the one leaving. Granted I think you are the waaaaaaaaay better person and I totally think Samantha is waaaaaaay excited that you are leaving but dont go. I know i speak for a lot of the women when I say that we look forward to your new posts. Unlike Smantha you post new cakes, original cakes, and you experiment with other things too. We know you'll give samples and we know you didn't steal ideas from nobody else. You are just you. Samantha she just wants to be like everyone else. This isn't right that it came down to this. All you other women, I know the majority of you agree with me. Everyone I talk to and sell stuff too agrees with me. Stop being a pushover and step up, speak up, reports, flag, whatever you got to do. This is all so disgusting. And samantha, it is dispicable that you even got jelous over Brookes good-bye post and had to post over that. You are just a wanna-be. And that spiderman dora cake was ugly as hell. FYI. Does Glamour Cakes come on here? We never hear from her either. I want to know what she thinks as well. her and Brooke never responded to the crap yet they get the blunt and Samantha trying to say its all them. We know the truth. You ladies need to speak it up. 

Abs, I beleive it is negativity like yours that brings on these drama sessions. I do NOT start any of them. I have also spoken to MANY ladies on the site and they have said they thought Brooke was posting the ads to try and 'push me out' and to make herself look 'better'. I thought that was ridiculous and just beleived it was either customers of hers who thought they were helping or wackos with no lives. I am NOT excited she is leaving, I feel bad that she is. But like her, I also get most of my cake orders by word of mouth and referrals. I do also offer free sample of cakes, as well as have VERY competitive prices for the amount of work I do. I do many simple cakes a week, and choose to post the more creative ones Ive had ordered for those to see. Brooke and alicia also repost the same pics over and over. I have no problem with that nor them at all. As a matter of fact I got 'chastized' for using a pic that was not my own (which by the way, was), yet while browsing cake pics online, came across 2 (yes, 2!) of the cake pics alicia used, and were posted by 2 other people in different states completely. But since I am the one who always gets attacked, noone bothers to look into the other cake pics. For YOUR information, I do NOT trash anyone on the site, nor do I state anything is 'Ugly'. So Im sorry your such a negative person. 

My cakes are all my own and I stand by that. If my cakes are posted online from people in other states...it IS possible that it is from people I made cakes for. I just moved here a month ago. From another state. I have 13 GOLD medals for pastry competitions. I have competed at the Culinary World Cup and received a GOLD medal there. I am a certified chef which means I have the capability of making something beyond a sheet cake. 

This is the exact pic you posted in the halloween posting, isnt it? Maybe im wrong. http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=79176 

Also, I do want to mention that even home taught bakers can make something beyond a sheet cake. I am not a certified chef, yet I do make tiered cakes and beyond. 

My cake. They stole it & it wouldnt be the first time ;) 

I should ask then, When did you make the cake? 

Im also curious then where you had it posted previously where they could have 'stolen' it? 

In 2004 for the chow hall in Germany. 

You are the most ridiculous person EVER Samantha. You always like to use someone elses words as your own. Funny how if you thought this whole time it was Brooke you managed to always say how nice she was but now that I say what I think you are going to switch the words to suit you and make it about you you you and against other cake people? You are the lamest. I hpe other people come on here and say what they really think because I know most people arent agreeing with what you say because i have heard it first hand. i jhave the respect not to post their names though unless they give me permission. 

I did NOT say I thought it was Brooke. Please re read what I posted above. It states OTHERS have told me they thought it was Brooke. 

Thank Alicia. Where online was it posted? I just want to make sure mine arent stolen the same way. 

Alicia I have seen your webpage for the military. You do impressive work and I dont doubt that what you post is your own. Samantha on the other hand I don't know how many times I have looked up links to flikr and google after someone posted it and sure enough it isnt her picture because the other people posted it ages ago with many different angles and such so it isn't like they stole her one photo. Besides that how can someone come up with an awesome nurse cake but then have such an ugly Dora/Spiderman one among other ugly cakes. Id be ashamed to post those pictures let me tell you. And soon she will copy your hand made design thing you just posted. I know it and everyone else knows it that is why people keep psting it on the yard sale site. 

Abs, I believe you are a very hateful person with nothing better to do than be the 'bully'. The dora/spiderman cake was requested. I did exactly what the client wanted. As for the nurse cake, yes I have done it and am actually making another one tonight. Im amazed youve found MY cakes online, and I do post them with different angles on websites. We are restricted to 3 pics on the ads, so I of course only use on photo of each cake. 

Whatever Samantha. You are a pathological liar. You need a big dose of reality but all that air in your big egotistical head wn't allow it. Wake up and smell the buttercream, cupcake. 

Your very cute Abs, And Im glad your here to keep everyone 'in check'. 

Please. Nothing could take the swelling out of your head. Not evena bathtub full of ice. You are so full of yourself. Is that why your butt is so big in your wedding picture? No more room in your head so it goes to your butt? 

Ah, and there it is. The needless name calling. Im out of here. Bye! 

Yeah right. You'll be back. You always have to have the last word. Stir up the drama to make yourself look like poor poor wittle Samantha and beg people to coddle you to their nipple. You'll type at least once more. You are obsessive compulsie. Always gotta be on top and always gotta have the last word and always gotta be right even when people know you are dead wrong. Take responsibilities for your action. It is what most grown women do. 

Silence! Sweet! But I am sure it isn't for long. 

I find her cakes very pretty i love the ocean one! you are so smart when it comes to cakes and originality where are yours??